Talk:Got Live If You Want It! (album)

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Assessment comment

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Y All the start class criteria Y A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details Y A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs Y Categorisation at least by artist and year Cavie78 (talk) 16:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC) Article requirements: Y Start: reasonably complete infobox; lead section with overview of album; track listing; reference to at least primary personnel by name; Categorization by at least artist and year. C: all of start and (1) cover art in infobox; (2) at least one additional section of prose; (3) track lengths & song authors in tracklist; (4) a personnel section including all musicians. B: all of C and (1) most technical details in infobox; (2) technical personnel in personnel section; (3) no obvious issues with sourcing; (4) no obvious issues with readability, though it may not conform completely to style guidelines; (5) no glaring omissions of information (see some suggestions at WP:ALBUM) or extraneous information, like trivia. Higher Classes are not assigned by WikiProject Album. Please review "the perfect article" and, if already B class, consider seeking additional feedback from Wikipedia:Good articles or Wikipedia:Featured articles. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Assessment for additional information on article class. To request a reassessment from the Album project, when concerns are addressed, please see "requesting an assessment".

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Got Live If You Want It! (album)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 14:42, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Infobox

• Needs alt
  • Done
• Genre: rhythm and blues → R&B. Needs a source in the body of the article, stating the genres
  • R&B is quoted in #Critical reception; to avoid confusion with the more commonly known contemporary R&B, the full name "rhythm and blues" is used in reference to the predecessor genre.

Good idea. We really don't put the genres on the critical reception. It is more on the composition or music & lyrics. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 23:10, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

"Sometimes improving Wikipedia requires making exceptions." isento (talk) 10:03, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I guess I can do that. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:53, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• unknown English venue (5 – 7 March 1966) → create a foonote citing "Regal Theatre in London, the Palace Theatre in Manchester or the Empire Theatre in Liverpool."
  • Done.

Lead

• hit → bias, remove it
  • Hit: "a successful venture, especially a film, pop record, or song." (Verified in the body of the article that Aftermath was a hit.) Bias: "prejudice in favor of or against one thing, person, or group compared with another, usually in a way considered to be unfair." I do not believe this applies. isento (talk) 21:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I didn't notice the source. It doesn't apply because the source states it was successful. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 23:13, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

They mean the same thing. isento (talk) 09:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Background

• young people while alienating → young people, while alienating
  • No. isento (talk) 22:53, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Then you need a full point on that sentence. It goes on forever MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 23:09, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I added a comma after "police", making a separate clause. isento (talk) 09:36, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Looks good now. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:59, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Recording and production

• Fine

Title and packaging

• Fine

Release

• London → London Records (otherwise it just gets mixed with the city)
  • Done. isento (talk) 21:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Critical reception

• There is a violation of copyright due to Paste magazine/Crawdaddy magazine and All Music reviews being too close to the source.
• "a letdown, owing to a mixture of factors, some beyond the producers' control and other very much their doing" or "the album has its virtues as a historical document, with some extremely important caveats for anyone not old enough to recognise the inherent limitations in a live album of this vintage." → re-word at least one of the sentences so that doesn't strike as copyright violation.
• Regarding the Paste magazine/Crawdaddy magazine is this huge quote "A sloppy performance – but never flaccid. Some bad detail, but lots of tension. It’s a mechanical conception and realization (like all metal songs) – with the instruments and Mick’s voice densely organised into hard, sharp-edged planes of sound: a construction of aural surfaces and regular surfaced planes, a planar conception, the product of a mechanistic discipline, with an emphasis upon the geometrical organization of percussive sounds." → I'm sure you can reduce this quote
  • I've paraphrased and removed a bit. isento (talk) 21:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Track listing

• Total lenght?
  • Already noted in the infobox. As for lengths of each side, neither Template:Track listing or MOS:ALBUM mandate it. isento (talk) 21:55, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Personnel

• Fine

Charts

• Put the reference next to the chart, instead of the peak position
  • Done. isento (talk) 21:55, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Certifications

• Add acessdate date

References

• rollingstone.com. → Rolling Stone
• tomhull.com → Tom Hull on the web
• pastemagazine.com. → Paste (magazine)
  • Done. isento (talk) 22:00, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Further reading

• royalalberthall.com. → Royal Albert Hall (as publisher)
  • Done. isento (talk) 22:00, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

External links

• Fine

Overall

• Need to add the gold certification to the prose.
• You can now address the comments. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Done. isento (talk) 22:03, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

@Isento: it is really close to GA. Paste magazine source still needs a bit more trim or paraphrasing it is still on 41% copyright violation. I left you something on the infobox. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 23:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Just because this tool notices similarities in text doesn't mean it's copyright violation - your tool is mistakenly including items that are not direct quotes from the source but happen to appear in both articles, including album title and song titles. Blocked quotes of 40+ words are allowed according to MOS:BLOCKQUOTE. The tool, as it says, "attempts to detect copyright violations"; it's still your responsibility to adjudge if it is true, based on our guidelines and policies. isento (talk) 09:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

It's not my tool. I guess you have 52 words so it is allowed. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:56, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Captured on video?

There were portable video cameras in 1966? Try ‘film’. 61.68.158.68 (talk) 20:41, 21 July 2022 (UTC)